i have this call (and yes it works i replaced the real names and the ids) and when i have this console.log(this.object()) after my subscribe or even before I will get a loop. If i put the log in the subscribe i won't get a loop and with untracked i won't get a loop too. Is this really as it works because nothing in this effect should trigger the call again and again, my first solution was to comment out this._object.set(null) but not even this triggers the loop